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Feature-rich disaster vs Lean UI

genl :

Jun 17, 2014

It seems there is a handful of small features that have been requested but likely never to be implemented because reasons like "it may be a bad decision" and "this may not be used my enough users". Eventually some of the features may get implemented on ini-tweak level, making those who want to use them to fiddle with the files by hand.

There is nothing wrong with setting something manually inside ini files. It may lead to the situation where many users end up with doing it, or it may not.

I want to discuss this, as there may be better solutions that would potentially suit more people.

See this: http://i.imgur.com/JhwHDCq.png
and this: http://i.imgur.com/wkPF7UK.png

Basically these are the settings that fall into "too advanced for most users" category. A simple separate window outside of main UI allows to change these settings on the fly, without the need to access ini files. Novice user may not even find a way to activate them.

Both of these examples may not be best, they are from freeware applications. And I'm not familiar with how enterprise-level application development cycle should dictate the outcome of such things. But I know for certain that some additional code and a small window dialog won't add a memory footprint for all users big enough to be troubled about. This may worth consideration.

Alex Pankratov :

Jun 17, 2014

Oh, totally agree with this. That's how my all time favourite app - uTorrent - does it, and that's how we did it in Hamachi 2 (it was done by Gabor, not me though), so I can assure you this will gets done in bvckup as well ... just need a bit of time, that's all :)

[1] http://cache.filehippo.com/img/ex/1305__Hamachi2_02.png

Alex Pankratov :

Jun 17, 2014

Duh. Your second screenshot *is* from uTorrent, isn't it?

genl :

Jun 17, 2014

It is.

Silvernine :

Jun 17, 2014

Hahaha Alex don't recognize it on first glance although he's a fan!

Ooh! What software is http://i.imgur.com/JhwHDCq.png from? I don't recognize the program icon. While I love uTorrent, the aesthetics from that program you have is quite nicer in some ways.

genl :

Jun 17, 2014

Silvernine, it's from 7+ Taskbar Tweaker.

Lurch :

Jun 17, 2014

When I saw the screenshots I was going to say that's exactly how Hamachi did it so I'm sure Alex isn't against the idea!

Deipotent :

Jun 21, 2014

Directory Opus also does it like this but allows you to change pref by clicking on the true/false part to toggle (or display drop-down, editbox etc.).

It also shows settings that have been changed (ie. not default) in bold text.

genl :

Jun 22, 2014

Deipotent, how the dialog works is not really important. I just wanted to show that it's possible to keep the general UI minimalistic while still adding more advanced settings, so novice users won't get confused and advanced users won't have to dig through ini files and registry hives.

From what I can see, Directory Opus is not a good example to this.

Deipotent :

Jun 23, 2014

From what I can see, Directory Opus is not a good example to this.


While DOpus has a lot of options, it was the Advanced options I was referring to specifically...

http://i.imgur.com/tvInux5.png

Silvernine :

Jun 23, 2014

Yeah. Directory Opus's advanced options is almost exactly like uTorrent's own advanced options. It does however have drop-downs which I think is useful is you want to know what other options are available or editboxes for those that require a certain input.

Funny how the other options in Directory Opus is a bit of a mess and a bit unwieldy to navigate but its Advanced options seems pretty nice and easy to use.

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