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Opinions (on an icon choice) ?

Alex Pankratov :

Sep 30, 2014



In the next release (R71) the "Device tracking" configuration is getting moved from the More section to its own, separate window.

This window is going to be brought up with a click on a "device tracking" icon that gets embedded into source/destination fields similarly to how R70 embeds a "key" icon there for network locations - https://bvckup2.com/wip/r70-network-logon-2.png

The biggest question, of course, is what icon to use. I have a short list of contenders and I could use some opinions - https://bvckup2.com/wip/r71-dev-tracking.png

What would you pick?

pjb :

Sep 30, 2014

My choice out of the short list is either the Paw print or Push Pin icon.

Initially I was looking to see if there was a fingerprint icon like the ones on this page
http://findicons.com/search/fingerprint
(the one with the fingerprint and magnifying glass icon
OR the one with the fingerprint and lock icon).

Alex Pankratov :

Sep 30, 2014


Oh, good one, thanks! Not sure how legible it'd be at 16x16 pixels, but it's worth a try.

Alex Pankratov :

Oct 01, 2014


https://bvckup2.com/wip/r71-dev-tracking-2.png
I don't know ... I really like the idea, but it tends to look a bit like a smudge, no?

pjb :

Oct 01, 2014

Yeah I see what you mean about looking like a smudge at 16 x 16 pixels.

Here's another idea: a simple icon of the DNA double helix
sort of like the ones shown on
http://www.freepik.com/free-icon/dna--ios-7-interface-symbol_709659.htm

Keep the curved X but just have 1 'rung' of the ladder at the top and at the bottom of the intersection of the curved X.

pjb

pjb :

Oct 01, 2014

To follow up on that DNA helix thing, instead of 1 line representing the "rung" how about go abstract and just put a dot sort of like on these set
http://www.istockphoto.com/vector/people_dna-19968482?st=46a3c0b

pjb

Bamit :

Oct 02, 2014

Alex, of your shortlist, I like number 3,  the chain icon.  However, after seeing the fingerprint and then DNA icons, I like the DNA one best. The symbol_709659.

Alex Pankratov :

Oct 02, 2014

@pjb, conceptualization is the hardest part of the icon design and you are just cranking the concept up just like *that*. It's a gift :) I'll play with the DNA idea, but given the time frame I will probably end up with just the pushpin icon.

@Bamit - yep, noted, thanks.

PeteZ :

Oct 02, 2014

I like the fingerprint icon, it was immediately identifiable as such to me at 16x16, and makes sense as an icon for this. (I tried to find a simple radar screen icon that would work at 16x16, and I came close, but the image and meaning wasn't as clear as the fingerprint.)

pjb :

Oct 02, 2014

Here's another idea, already identifiable.
A star icon like the  Internet Explorer Favorites Bookmark icon but within a circle band or two encompassing circle bands.  

So the idea is a takeoff on the traditional target icon with the star replacing the bullseye.  Hopefully it gives the message on further narrowing down your favorite device destination, device tracking, etc

Similar to this representation
https://www.iconfinder.com/icons/185181/bookmark_button_buttons_favorite_internet_multimedia_round_star_web_icon

Patrick

Alex Pankratov :

Oct 02, 2014

@PeteZ - I tried the radar and I couldn't do it in 16 x 16 pixels.

@Patrick - Ha, the DNA helix is very clever. Let me give it a try. The target / sniper scope - this will be hard to fit into 16x16. The rule of thumb is that circles with details in them don't work in smaller sizes, it's all getting all too squished there.

genl :

Oct 07, 2014

To me the most intuitive are number 1 and 5. That's exactly what I do with a marker to not forget which external hdd is which. I'm using sticky notes, but the idea is the same.

I really don't get the idea behind some other icons.

Fingerprint or paw (#6)? That means an "authentication" or "login" in my book. The chain (#3)? Didn't see that used much so I can't say for sure, but it looks like an indication for some kind of restriction. Now that I look at it, #2 does seem to be a chain too, however the first time I saw that I thought about "virtual desktops". The pin (#4)? I can only think about "always on top" or "always keep that", which in terms of folder paths I could understand as "never let that destination device go to sleep mode" or "don't let anyone change that path", both of which don't make much sense.

Alex Pankratov :

Oct 07, 2014

@genl - #1 is what I started with, but then someone said that it looked as "there are user's notes attached to this field" and I just can't unsee it now :-| It's not tracking, nor is it pinning. It's tagging and that's off.

The paw option quite unambiguously means "tracks" (as in "animal tracks"), but my problem with it that it's just too cutesy and playful.

I agree on the fingerprint, it is indeed more of "authentication". Though I really like the icon itself ... perhaps I should reuse it for net logons, instead of the key.

Links are for "chaining" or "connecting", but I don't think they are obvious enough to work well.

Pushpin is what I have now and I think it does a reasonable job of representing the "pinning location to a drive" angle. There was also a radar screen as an option (or perhaps a satellite dish), but I couldn't figure out how to squeeze them into 16x16 pixels.

JC :

Oct 07, 2014

For simplicity, I see nothing wrong with the last one that simply says track. maybe change it to Tracked instead and there will be no doubt as to what is going on.

genl :

Oct 08, 2014

Alex, I'm not a native english speaker but used to talk on the internet forums and chats for at least 10 years now.

I never heard of a word "pinning" having any relation to "tracking". Maybe that's only me.

Maybe if you make some kind of immediate hint that would popup right there near the icon, the icon itself would matter less. Then again, that would be hardly different from #9.

a satellite dish

I think it's not suitable.

Another possibly intuitive thing to represent would be some kind of "smart tracking" or "smart monitoring" (since you can track with more than 1 way, that's already smart enough), but I don't think there are easy ways to represent "smart" word.

If you still want to go with "pinning", maybe try something like this? https://cdn1.iconfinder.com/data/icons/map-location-set/512/pin_marker-512.png
That pin is less workplace-ish, more "track-something-somewhere"-ish like "where is my thing now".

Deipotent :

Oct 08, 2014

I like the pin, but the last one that says TRACK is clearest IMO. However, you then have a localization issue.

pjb :

Oct 08, 2014

There's also the semi-universal icon for the smart chip used in e-passports
that some countries are using.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biometric_passport

Alex Pankratov :

Oct 08, 2014

Maybe if you make some kind of immediate hint that would popup right there near the icon, the icon itself would matter less.


Exactly, I've done just that - https://bvckup2.com/wip/r71-dev-tracking-3.gif

In the end, there's plenty of icons that don't make *any* sense whatsoever, but it doesn't make discovering a function behind them any harder if there's a tooltip (starting with a floppy for a Save).

"smart"


Brain, Einstein, ... :) ... though not in 16x16 space, no there isn't.

That other pin pretty much means "physical location", I don't think it's any better than a pushpin.

Alex Pankratov :

Oct 08, 2014

I like the pin, but the last one that says TRACK is clearest IMO. However, you then have a localization issue.


Yep. And a rendering issue ... as there's no narrow bold Segoe UI.

the semi-universal icon for the smart chip


Now, that's just a meatball sandwich if you ask me :)

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